Amid the backlash Quentin Tarantino is receiving this week after he claims Marvel disclosure killed the movie star, a years-old video interview with ‘The Falcon and the Winter Soldier’ star Anthony Mackie is doing the rounds. online because it says… essentially the same thing.
Discussing the state of the film industry at the 2018 London Comic-Con, Mackie, a longtime and much-loved Marvel actor, candidly shared that superhero movies, like Marvel’s, have led to the “death of the movie star.” cinema”.
“There are no more movie stars,” Mackie explained. “Like, Anthony Mackie is not a movie star. The Falcon is a movie star. And that’s what’s weird. It used to be with Tom Cruise, Will Smith, Stallone and Schwarzenegger, when you went to the cinema, you went to see Stallone’s film. You went to see the Schwarzenegger film. Now go see: X-Men. So the evolution of the superhero meant the death of the movie star.
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Mackie went on to lament that Hollywood is different these days, as it caters only to “16-year-olds and China,” and that many classic films would simply never be made today.
“Think about some of your favorite movies growing up, those movies wouldn’t be made today. [“Goonies”] today it would not be done. [“Halloween”] today it would not be done. [“The Thing”] today it would not be done. You watch “Stranger Things” on Netflix; “Stranger Things” is “Goonies”.
Mackie continued, “It’s just a different time now. [Hollywood makes] movies for a specific audience instead of just making good movies. And that’s why people stopped going to the movies, because most movies suck.”
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Cut to Tarantino today, who’s feeling the heat after making similar remarks during an interview with the “2 Bears, 1 Cave” podcast. He blamed the loss of movie stars on the “wonder of Hollywood”.
“Part of the wonder of Hollywood is…there are all these actors who have become famous playing these characters,” Tarantino said. “But they’re not movie stars. Right? Captain America is the star. Or Thor is the star. I mean, I’m not the first person to say this. I think it’s been said countless times… but it’s like, you know, these characters in the franchise become a star.”
Like Mackie, the “Kill Bill” director said actors aren’t the stars of the movies, but rather the superheroes they play are.
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Simu Liu, who played Shang-Chi in the 2021 Marvel superhero film, was one of many to do so return fire to Tarantino on Twitter with his take on Hollywood and Marvel films: “If the only custodians of movie stardom came from Tarantino and Scorsese, I would never have had the opportunity to direct a $400 million plus film. I am in awe of their cinematic genius. They are transcendent authors. But they can’t point their noses at me or anyone else.
In a second tweet, Liu added: “No film studio is or ever will be perfect. But I am proud to work with one who has made sustained efforts to enhance diversity on screen by creating heroes who empower and inspire people of all communities everywhere. I loved the ‘Golden Age’ too…but it was white as hell.”
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“I’m not even putting [Marvel movies] quite frankly, to tell you the truth,” Tarantino said during his appearance on the podcast. “But this is one of the… marvel’s legacy of Hollywood movies.”
Tarantino also clarified in the interview that he doesn’t “hate” Marvel movies, but he doesn’t like Hollywood’s short-sighted interest in them,” as there seems to be no room for other types of movies.
“I used to collect Marvel comics like crazy when I was a kid,” Tarantino said. “There’s one thing that if these movies came out when I was in my 20s, I’d be totally fucking happy and I’d totally love them. I mean, they wouldn’t be the only movies made. It would be those movies among other movies. But I’m almost 60 years old. No, I’m not that keen on them.
“My only ax against them is that they’re the only things that look done,” he added. “And they’re the only things that seem to generate any kind of excitement among the fans or even the studio that makes them. This is what they are excited about. And so it’s just the fact that they’re the whole representation of this era of movies right now. There really isn’t much room for anything else. This is my problem.
The director also said earlier this month that he’s not looking to get involved in the Marvel Cinematic Universe because “you have to be a mercenary to do these things. I’m not a mercenary. I’m not looking for work.”
Watch Mackie’s interview in the video above.
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